[bicepeak]

Found these dimensions for the Japan spec Cross. Pretty remarkable when put against my larger RAV4. Translated to inches, the floor to ceiling measurement is actually 3.7" higher on the Cross. Remarkably, the distance from the hatch to the front seat back is practically the same on both.

( Anyone know how to manipulate a photo to show it in inches?)

 

[bicepeak]

Something that doesn't jive is my RAV4 hatch opening is 45 " wide and the Cross opening is almost 54" wide. How can that be possible in a narrower vehicle ?

 

[Cross Thoughts]

Thanks for the dimension photo, Bicepeak, I've been waiting for that critical data.

As for the volume, I assume the 487 liter (17.2 ft^3) applies to the cargo volume, but this doesn't come close to what I have previously found:
Cargo Volume rear seats up, down FWD 25.5, N/A ft^3, AWD 24.3, N/A ft^3

Lost in translation?

Question: Is there a standard practice for measuring the hatch to front seat back distance? Variables include seat fore/aft position and seat back rake. Also, the photo shows this as from the hatch bottom to near the top of the seat back, which is not a horizontal measurement.

 

[bicepeak]

Thanks for the dimension photo, Bicepeak, I've been waiting for that critical data.

As for the volume, I assume the 487 liter (17.2 ft^3) applies to the cargo volume, but this doesn't come close to what I have previously found:
Cargo Volume rear seats up, down FWD 25.5, N/A ft^3, AWD 24.3, N/A ft^3

Lost in translation?

Question: Is there a standard practice for measuring the hatch to front seat back distance? Variables include seat fore/aft position and seat back rake. Also, the photo shows this as from the hatch bottom to near the top of the seat back, which is not a horizontal measurement.

Yes some of these measurements are problematic. As I said in a previous post, the width makes little sense being wider than a RAV4. Perhaps soon I will have a chance to check this out in person with my handy dandy tape measure.

Cargo capacity is a problem too because different parts of the world take this measurement in different ways.

 

[Canadian Shopper]

We need some Thai friends to help us out on actual cargo dimensions! I'm a little concerned that Toyota isn't releasing full cargo (rear seats folded down) specs. I worry that it's like when a studio only lets critics see a movie on opening day so they can't release a negative review beforehand. Given that cargo space is such a key part of any SUV I'm perplexed. I'm also concerned as one image I saw showed a fairly substantial raised seatback area when the rear seats were folded down. I've been spoiled by the flat floor of the Honda HRV and have been waiting for more details of the Toyota Cross' cargo area before deciding between an HRV or a Cross.

 

[Cross Thoughts]

We need some Thai friends to help us out on actual cargo dimensions! I'm a little concerned that Toyota isn't releasing full cargo (rear seats folded down) specs. (SNIP)

Definitely agree, but with so many unknowns is the North American version the same as the Thai? Last time I checked a small number of USA models had been shipped to dealers. It would be nice for somebody to check these out with their handy-dandy tape measure an pass along their findings to this group.

As for the raised seatback area with rear seats folded down, is this impacted by the choice of FWD (Torsion rear suspension} or AWD (Independent rear suspension)? The specs show a slight difference in cargo volume between the two configurations, but no details on what linear dimensions are different.

I was encouraged by one marketing review that boasted that the Cross could carry an adult bicycle inside the vehicle without removing a wheel from the bike, but no real verification yet. This happens to be a feature at the top of my "Nice to Have" list.

 

[Canadian Shopper]

Definitely agree, but with so many unknowns is the North American version the same as the Thai? Last time I checked a small number of USA models had been shipped to dealers. It would be nice for somebody to check these out with their handy-dandy tape measure an pass along their findings to this group.

As for the raised seatback area with rear seats folded down, is this impacted by the choice of FWD (Torsion rear suspension} or AWD (Independent rear suspension)? The specs show a slight difference in cargo volume between the two configurations, but no details on what linear dimensions are different.

I was encouraged by one marketing review that boasted that the Cross could carry an adult bicycle inside the vehicle without removing a wheel from the bike, but no real verification yet. This happens to be a feature at the top of my "Nice to Have" list.

Thanks for your dialogue on this. Here's the image that has me concerned.

First Spin: 2022 Toyota Corolla Cross

This past July, Toyota sold the 50-millionth Corolla. The well-known, workaday compact car has been in production for more than 55 years and remains one of Toyota’s best sellers. In America, the Co…

blog.consumerguide.com

(mid-way through)

It looks like it has more to do with seat back thickness than suspension position but I could be wrong. The HRV has a super flat cargo area but I believe they accomplish that through Honda seat magic and a uniquely placed gas tank. This could be a deal breaker is you're sliding objects like amps or lumber in. Urk.

 

[Canadian Shopper]

Thanks for your dialogue on this. Here's the image that has me concerned.

First Spin: 2022 Toyota Corolla Cross

This past July, Toyota sold the 50-millionth Corolla. The well-known, workaday compact car has been in production for more than 55 years and remains one of Toyota’s best sellers. In America, the Co…

blog.consumerguide.com

(mid-way through)

It looks like it has more to do with seat back thickness than suspension position but I could be wrong. The HRV has a super flat cargo area but I believe they accomplish that through Honda seat magic and a uniquely placed gas tank. This could be a deal breaker is you're sliding objects like amps or lumber in. Urk.

It turns out you're right. There are different heights depending on FWD or AWD. See this article and quoted cargo capacity sizes.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/toyota/corolla-cross/interior

Max seems to be in the 66 cubic foot range which is still better than the 2021 HRV at 58 cubic feet. We'll see what the new 2022 HRV has whenever it finally gets released.

 

[Cross Thoughts]

It turns out you're right. There are different heights depending on FWD or AWD. See this article and quoted cargo capacity sizes.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/toyota/corolla-cross/interior

Max seems to be in the 66 cubic foot range which is still better than the 2021 HRV at 58 cubic feet. We'll see what the new 2022 HRV has whenever it finally gets released.

Thanks, the Consumer Report quote in the USNews article has more detail on my suspicions about the FWD/AWD option impact on cargo space than I had seen elsewhere.

Here is a blown up photo of the cargo area:

https://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/09/IMG_3116.jpg

 

[TaoWarrior]

It turns out you're right. There are different heights depending on FWD or AWD. See this article and quoted cargo capacity sizes.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/toyota/corolla-cross/interior

Max seems to be in the 66 cubic foot range which is still better than the 2021 HRV at 58 cubic feet. We'll see what the new 2022 HRV has whenever it finally gets released.

I have a hard time buying 66 cubic foot. The rav4 has 37 with seats up the cross is reported at 25 with seats up rav4 is 69 with seats down so the cross would have to come up with 10 cubic feet more than the rav4 gets with seats down to hit 66. Since most reviews mention that the rear legroom is a bit small and while the rav4 isn't spacious it's not what I would call small either I don't see where these magical 10 cubic feet would come from. Just at a guess from photos etc. I've seen I would expect about 45-55 cubic feet on the cross.